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By: Z-man

Z-man — Wed, 01 Mar 2006 17:16:00 +0000

thanks for the feedback on the book. I’ll listen.

By: Brady

Brady — Wed, 01 Mar 2006 10:11:00 +0000

I read the book about a year ago. It talks more about listening to the other and listening to “the Spirit” than talking, to answer one of the comments to your blog.

It deals basically with what keeps us from communicating with folks in an unselfish way. Though I found the end of the book too “vague” for me, it was a worthwhile read and will be read again.

By: Stoogelover

Stoogelover — Tue, 28 Feb 2006 20:15:00 +0000

Judy: After they brought in the praise band, they had could not longer use that song!

By: Z-man

Z-man — Tue, 28 Feb 2006 20:14:00 +0000

Ouch, the excerpt chosen by the web site didn’t seem to capture what you described.

He writes about “internal realities” such as excitement, fear, pressure, anger, happiness, boredom, emptiness, misery, compassion and so forth and then says these are not life. As long as we’re on this side of the curse, aren’t these part of “life” as we know it in a broken world?

Sure, as Christians we know a glimpse of the life that can/will be, and I suspect (hope?) that’s where he’s going in this book. Any love and joy we experience here on earth is also only a glimpse of real life with God. But also, real life here on earth includes sorrow, shame, misery, happiness, emptiness, peace, etc. That is our reality and to share those with one another brings us closer to God as well as one another, just as Jesus shared with us in suffering, pain, sorrow, joy, companionship, etc. It seems to me, not to share all of these with one another and with God is not to experience the realities of life on earth and distorts our understanding of what ‚Äúreal life‚Äù will be with God for eternity.

His observations in that excerpt struck me as shallow as the “talk” he is critiquing. Those are very broad generalizations. I hope he parses those out in the remainder of the book, although I‚Äôm not enticed to buy it yet. Tell me it gets better.

By: meowmix

meowmix — Tue, 28 Feb 2006 19:46:00 +0000

P.S. – Randy, I miss the song “We Are the Body of Christ” not coming on at the opening of ACOC’s website. Where did it go?

By: meowmix

meowmix — Tue, 28 Feb 2006 19:24:00 +0000

That relationship and listening thing……….good stuff. I “became a Christian” at age 13 but was way past grown before I understood there was a relationship to be had with God.

By: cd2lab

cd2lab — Tue, 28 Feb 2006 19:14:00 +0000

Sooouulll Taaalllkk….
a Don Cornelius Production.
The cover of that book is bad, bro.

Next Mr. Crabb might write a book about listening. Conversations tend to be more meaningful when it is applied. Trying to listen to God might not hurt too much either.

By: Stoogelover

Stoogelover — Tue, 28 Feb 2006 19:08:00 +0000

We are in too much of a hurry and too self absorbed to really care about what anyone else has to say. But we do want them to hear our shallow talk!
I’ve always gained greatly from Larry Crabb’s books and will pick up a copy of this one. Can’t wait for all the meaningful conversation we’re going to have at Pepperdine!!

By: cwinwc

cwinwc — Tue, 28 Feb 2006 18:40:00 +0000

Sounds like you’ve read some of Bill Glasser’s material on Quality Schools. According to “Mr. Bill,” “quality” will not occur on the part of students unless there is a relationship between students and teachers.

I guess that would involve some conversation beyond the subject material.

All you have to do is mention hkvedd and ears will perk up.

By: Thurman8er

Thurman8er — Tue, 28 Feb 2006 18:24:00 +0000

A reporter asked me the other day how teachers get students to actually listen to them. I told him that it wouldn’t happen without some sort of a relationship. There has to be some depth to the talk.

Can’t wait to hear more about the read.